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{\an1} Leave Michael alone!

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Leave Michael alone!
Leave Michael alone!

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Breaking news once again.
So, stand by here on Fox News Live.

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Michael Jackson, of course, facing
seven counts of child molestation,

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two counts of administering
an intoxicating agent to a child.

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He's facing 20 years.

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Fans started arriving
in the middle of the night

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to get a good seat or stand
right next to the courthouse.

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The famous arraignment. Oh, my gosh.

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The entire world converged
on Santa Maria.

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More than 1,000 journalists.

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{\an8}I was there for all of it.

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He is fighting these
molestation charges

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and he is going to do
everything he can.

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- Michael's innocent!
- Michael's innocent!

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I think, on my deathbed,

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certain events will flash before my
eyes because it was that intense.

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Michael Jackson,

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his motorcade winding its way
to the courthouse

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under police motorcycle escort.

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I was about four or five miles
to get to the courthouse

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and the cops
with their sirens blaring.

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{\an1}SIRENS

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There were six motorcycle cops.

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{\an8}Not even the President gets that!

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{\an8}It was a zoo.

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{\an1}COMMOTION

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What can you tell us
outside there,

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the Santa Maria courthouse?
We heard cheers.

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He arrived about 8.45.

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Michael did stop to acknowledge
the hundreds of fans.

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It was just sheer craziness.

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I was there trying to record it
with my videographer.

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His entourage is coming up.

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And Michael was telling his
videographer, "Get that, get that".

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Michael Jackson was orchestrating.

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There are people out there
from all over the world.

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So, I think it's quite
a spontaneous outpouring of support

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that is nice to see.

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A lot of those fans
were bussed up there

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from Las Vegas, from San Diego,
from Los Angeles.

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So, while his attorney called it
a "spontaneous outpouring" of love,

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it was actually highly orchestrated.

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It shows Michael Jackson's genius
at spectacle.

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Members of
a black separatist group,

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the Nation of Islam,
flanked the streets.

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They're reported to be protecting
and possibly advising the singer.

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Jermaine Jackson
brings the Nation of Islam.

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And when they marched
ahead of Michael,

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it was the most amazing sight
I had ever seen,

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this show of force.

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There is a strategy behind trying
to galvanise the black community.

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White folks are doing this.
White folks are prosecuting him.

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White folks are accusing him.

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And he's come to us for help.
We're going to help.

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And Michael knew that,

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and he used that.

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{\an8}As we were arriving
at the courthouse,

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{\an8}there were three helicopters
flying over, circling.

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There were a few thousand
demonstrators, literally screaming.

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This was child molestation.

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He's a 15-year-old kid.

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He's a 15-year-old kid
who's a cancer survivor.

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{\an8}You didn't see him crying
or holding his head down

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{\an8}because he knew he was innocent.

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During his time in court,

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Michael would call me
at two and three in the morning.

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"You've got to go out there
and tell people I'm innocent"...

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Michael feels very confident
in his defence team,

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and we have a long way to go.

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..and that's what I did.

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Michael Jackson leaving
Judge Rodney Melville's courtroom.

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We know that Jackson nodded when he
asked if he understood the charges.

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He said "not guilty"
when asked for his plea.

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Michael Jackson walks out of court,
surrounded by his family,

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surrounded by bodyguards.

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And when he's about to get into his
SUV limo, all hell breaks loose.

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- Oh, my goodness,
look at this.
- Look at these people.

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- He is jumping on top of the car.
- Oh, we see him.

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- He is truly performing for his fans.
- Look at that.
- Truly performing.

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The crowd is just going
completely insane.

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And he's just turning around,
and kind of doing a move.

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Consequently, what was happening
outside court made the headlines

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as opposed to what was happening
inside court.

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Brilliant strategy.

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Pull focus. Pull focus.

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{\an1}CROWD NOISE

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A lot of people said,
hey, that's just disrespectful.

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That's not the way
you conduct yourself.

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You'd conduct yourself with decorum.

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Any attorney will tell his client -

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{\an8}"No, no, no, you show respect.
You don't..."

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{\an8}Uh-uh, not Michael Jackson.

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{\an8}If you want the world
to know you are innocent,

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you show your face to everybody

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that you are not afraid.

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And that's what he did.

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{\an1}INDISTINCT CHANTING

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I think people believe
what they want to believe.

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And it's not necessarily
based on logic.

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I think it's based on emotion.

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He had the ability to be able
to convince them

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of things that are
otherwise unbelievable.

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And I think that created for him
a sense of invincibility.

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But, from the prosecution
standpoint,

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we knew we were dealing with
a paedophile.

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And he was a paedophile who could
abuse children almost with impunity.

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And we felt that we had
enough corroborative evidence

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to be able to win the case.

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Michael was feeling frightened.

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Pure, plain and simple,
he was scared to death.

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He called in the middle of
the night, he was so upset.

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"Brian, why are they doing this
to me?"

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{\an8}"Because your name is
Michael Jackson."

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{\an8}If your name were Smith, Jones,

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they'd throw this case out
in a hot second.

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This is a fraudulent scam.

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Gavin Arvizo was misrepresenting,

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telling fantasies
and false statements.

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He says, "How are we going to win,
Brian?"

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And I said,
"We have to overturn every stone."

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It means subpoenaing and
interviewing every witness there is.

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And Michael said, "Do it, Brian.
That's what you're going to do."

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I said, "You bet."

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Another allegation of sexual abuse

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was going to bankrupt
Michael Jackson, and they knew it.

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{\an8}They knew what the consequence
of a child coming forward

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{\an8}and making another allegation
of child sexual abuse

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was going to be

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because of what happened
with Jordan Chandler back in '93.

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Pop superstar Michael Jackson is
facing allegations of child abuse,

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and Los Angeles police have
launched a criminal investigation.

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This is the boy
at the centre of the allegations.

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13-year-old Jordan Chandler
was pictured with Michael Jackson

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on holiday in Monte Carlo
earlier this year.

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In 1993,

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I was Michael Jackson's

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{\an8}personal chambermaid
for his bedroom.

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I think he chose me
because I was quiet

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and I think...

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..he thought that he could keep
his secrets with me.

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Hold on. Let me use the inhaler.

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{\an1}- SHE COUGHS
- Sorry.

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Sometimes when I think of him,
I get asthma.

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I'm sorry! Sorry.
I'm probably crazy.

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I don't know.

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There were always little boys,

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different little boys
at Neverland...

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..running around the property...

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{\an1}HAPPY CHATTER

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..at the theatre, watching movies,
with no parents around.

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And I think he'd get
a kick out of watching them

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fight for his attention.

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There was one day when
Mr Jackson had come into his bedroom

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with one of his little friends,

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and his little friend was
Jordy Chandler.

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I was cleaning the stairwell

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and, so, I kind of glanced,

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and where they stood,
they couldn't see me.

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And I saw Mr Jackson kissing Jordy
on the cheek near his mouth,

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and I saw his hand by his crotch,

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and I was bothered by seeing that,
very, very bothered.

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I didn't...I didn't...

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I fought that I didn't want to
believe Michael Jackson was...

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..was a man who had
a problem with little boys.

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They had been in a jacuzzi.

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They changed their clothes
and they took off.

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It was, it was an awful feeling.
I can't even explain it.

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And then, you know,
I kept thinking, well, maybe...

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maybe that's not...what I'm seeing.

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You know, you start questioning
yourself for what you did see.

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And, you know,
and then, you think, well...

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you can't just call the police
over there.

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They're going to think you're crazy.

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My detective supervisor says,

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{\an8}"Hey, Rose, I have a case,
and I need you to investigate.

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"We have allegations
from a young victim

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"that Michael Jackson sexually
molested him on numerous occasions."

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So, I'm like, Michael Jackson?
You're kidding, right?

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It was almost unbelievable.

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{\an8}The media,
they found out right away.

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So, it was all, pfft,
all over the news.

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That very same day,
we went out to the victim's home.

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I introduced myself,
and then, began my interview.

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One of the first things
he talked about,

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being in Las Vegas
with Michael Jackson.

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The parents became very comfortable
with Michael Jackson

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and allowed the victim to
spend time with Michael alone.

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They were seen hugging and touching.

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Jackson was talking to the kid,
and the kid was...overwhelmed,

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according to him, you know,
seeing his star

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and being able to touch him,
and say, wow.

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This is the grooming process.

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That night, in his suite,

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Michael asked him,
"Come on, let's watch a movie."

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The movie was The Exorcist.

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He was petrified.

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Michael said, "Would you like
to stay here, sleep with me?"

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And they did.

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The victim described the abuse
initially began with

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fondling, kissing.

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Later on, it progressed to
more aggressive sexual contact.

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When Mum found out that the child
had slept with Michael Jackson,

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she became pretty upset.

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Whenever he was confronted by a
parent, Michael would start crying.

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He made himself the victim.

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You know,
"How can you think this of me?

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"Oh, my God, I would
never do anything like that.

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"You know, I love children.
You have to trust me."

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Michael Jackson today
refused to comment

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on the police investigation

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as he prepared for the first stage
of his world tour in Thailand.

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{\an8}I remember when
the allegations came out,

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{\an8}the Jackson family,
they held a press conference.

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We join you here today
as a family united,

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a family that
has struggled from the bottom up.

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The family felt like somebody
was trying to shake him down.

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Michael has been made a victim,

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in a cruel obvious attempt to take
advantage of his fame and success.

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The most important thing to them was
that this image they had to protect.

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Certainly, in the black community,

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they were always like...

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"We're the black Kennedys.
We are America's royalty."

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Believe me, in 1993, the Jackson
family was extremely powerful.

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And, boy, oh, boy, did they
ever come to his defence.

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Jackson's Mr Fix-It -

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private investigator
Anthony Pellicano,

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one of Hollywood's
most powerful people,

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called in to do damage control.

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This strategy -

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it was about protecting
the golden goose, number one,

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but also protecting
the family's name.

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Now you're seeing him start
to take on this...

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victimhood mentality,
this victim mentality.

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"It's not me. It's somebody else
who's the bad guy."

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Good morning, everyone.

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{\an8}The Michael Jackson child sex abuse
investigation is expanding.

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Authorities are looking
into his relationships now

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with at least four boys.

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The names were given by
the victim's mum.

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She had a list of all the children
that they met.

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There were a lot of times
where we went to locations

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to interview people, Anthony
Pellicano was there before we were.

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00:18:33,520 --> 00:18:35,920
First was Wade Robson.

245
00:18:37,840 --> 00:18:40,240
Michael was helping him
with his music career,

246
00:18:40,280 --> 00:18:42,160
he brought him from Australia

247
00:18:42,200 --> 00:18:45,080
because Michael saw
the talent that he had.

248
00:18:47,760 --> 00:18:50,680
When we got there, he refused
to open the door at the beginning.

249
00:18:52,840 --> 00:18:55,040
They basically, you know, said,

250
00:18:55,080 --> 00:18:58,400
"Look, Anthony Pellicano was here.
We spoke to him.

251
00:18:58,440 --> 00:19:01,960
"He says that we're not obligated
to speak to the police.

252
00:19:02,000 --> 00:19:04,560
"He's working for Michael Jackson

253
00:19:04,600 --> 00:19:06,480
"and Michael Jackson
never abused me."

254
00:19:06,520 --> 00:19:08,960
Wade Robson denied everything.

255
00:19:09,000 --> 00:19:13,080
Then, Mr Pellicano
put the children on TV.

256
00:19:14,480 --> 00:19:19,280
I know Michael very well. I know
he wouldn't do anything like that.

257
00:19:19,320 --> 00:19:22,880
- Has he ever tried.
- To do anything with you

258
00:19:22,920 --> 00:19:25,360
that would even be considered
questionable?

259
00:19:25,400 --> 00:19:27,040
No, nothing.

260
00:19:29,000 --> 00:19:30,840
With Brett Barnes,
it was the same thing.

261
00:19:30,880 --> 00:19:34,360
"He's a great man,
and we don't have anything to say."

262
00:19:37,440 --> 00:19:38,800
When you'd have sleepovers

263
00:19:38,840 --> 00:19:40,920
and you'd stay in the same room
or the same bed,

264
00:19:40,960 --> 00:19:42,840
did that seem unusual
to you at all?

265
00:19:42,880 --> 00:19:45,880
No, because I slept on one side of
the bed, he slept on the other,

266
00:19:45,920 --> 00:19:47,600
and that was that.

267
00:19:47,640 --> 00:19:51,520
It was a ruthless with, you know
what they did.

268
00:19:51,560 --> 00:19:54,400
They really just had
absolutely no regard.

269
00:19:54,440 --> 00:19:59,920
They all negated that
they were victims.

270
00:20:04,560 --> 00:20:07,760
Things at Neverland
changed dramatically.

271
00:20:11,480 --> 00:20:15,360
Michael brought these
seven bodyguards back

272
00:20:15,400 --> 00:20:17,480
And they would harass the employees.

273
00:20:19,320 --> 00:20:21,560
They had guns.

274
00:20:21,600 --> 00:20:24,680
They'd point them at people.
They didn't care.

275
00:20:24,720 --> 00:20:28,920
They'd do whatever they can do to
scare you to just shut the hell up.

276
00:20:30,480 --> 00:20:33,840
One day, I was in his bedroom,
and he was standing by his bed,

277
00:20:33,880 --> 00:20:38,200
and out of the blue, he says,
"Adrian, you know,

278
00:20:38,240 --> 00:20:42,160
"if you ever say or do
anything that I don't like,

279
00:20:42,200 --> 00:20:44,680
"all I have to do is tell security

280
00:20:44,720 --> 00:20:49,200
"and they would take care of you,
but it wouldn't come from me."

281
00:20:49,240 --> 00:20:51,320
I thought, you're threatening me.

282
00:20:56,400 --> 00:21:00,360
And then, I got a subpoena,
and I had to give a deposition.

283
00:21:02,120 --> 00:21:03,640
My head was spinning.

284
00:21:07,920 --> 00:21:14,000
I was questioned about what I had
seen with Mr Jackson and Jordy.

285
00:21:17,680 --> 00:21:22,200
I was young, I was scared,
very mixed up,

286
00:21:22,240 --> 00:21:25,000
and Michael had some kind
of control over me.

287
00:21:25,040 --> 00:21:26,160
And, um...

288
00:21:29,200 --> 00:21:34,840
..I didn't say what I should
have said, which was the truth.

289
00:21:34,880 --> 00:21:36,440
And I held it back.

290
00:21:40,600 --> 00:21:43,920
Amid all Michael Jackson's troubles,
it finally seemed

291
00:21:43,960 --> 00:21:46,400
he'd gotten his family
in line behind him.

292
00:21:46,440 --> 00:21:49,160
Except, of course,
for the renegade LaToya.

293
00:21:49,200 --> 00:21:53,400
Michael is my brother.
I love him a great deal.

294
00:21:53,440 --> 00:21:57,280
{\an8}but I cannot, and I will not
be a silent collaborator

295
00:21:57,320 --> 00:22:00,560
{\an8}of his crimes against
small, innocent children.

296
00:22:02,800 --> 00:22:05,440
What 35-year-old man

297
00:22:05,480 --> 00:22:08,840
is going to take a little boy
and stay with him for 30 days?

298
00:22:08,880 --> 00:22:11,000
It blew everyone away.

299
00:22:11,040 --> 00:22:15,200
The family is horrified
and angry at the same time.

300
00:22:15,240 --> 00:22:19,720
There's no validity to what she is
saying, it is absolutely not true.

301
00:22:19,760 --> 00:22:22,120
My brother is not a child molester.

302
00:22:22,160 --> 00:22:25,520
LaToya is lying. And I'll tell her
to her face she's lying.

303
00:22:26,800 --> 00:22:30,680
LaToya was ostracised for that,

304
00:22:30,720 --> 00:22:34,600
and not only was she ostracised
from the family,

305
00:22:34,640 --> 00:22:38,000
but fans turned on her in droves.

306
00:22:43,960 --> 00:22:45,240
Oh, hi, Steve.

307
00:22:46,560 --> 00:22:49,920
Michael was raised by
a very pious mother.

308
00:22:49,960 --> 00:22:52,920
{\an8}I mean, any time I walked in on her,
she was reading the Bible

309
00:22:52,960 --> 00:22:54,760
{\an8}and Michael was raised
in that milieu.

310
00:22:54,800 --> 00:22:57,920
He was deeply connected
to his mother

311
00:22:57,960 --> 00:23:00,440
who offered unconditional love
and acceptance.

312
00:23:00,480 --> 00:23:02,920


313
00:23:02,960 --> 00:23:04,360
{\an1}PIANO ACCOMPANIMENT

314
00:23:04,400 --> 00:23:06,040
{\an1}APPLAUSE

315
00:23:28,840 --> 00:23:31,480
{\an8}The family of a teenage
boy is dropping its charge

316
00:23:31,520 --> 00:23:34,360
{\an8}that Michael Jackson
molested the boy.

317
00:23:34,400 --> 00:23:39,200
The case was settled, in secret,
reportedly for millions.

318
00:23:39,240 --> 00:23:42,800
The resolution of this case
is in no way

319
00:23:42,840 --> 00:23:45,360
an admission of guilt by
Michael Jackson.

320
00:23:45,400 --> 00:23:48,240
I felt the victim was very credible.

321
00:23:48,280 --> 00:23:52,040
But, once that was settled,
our case was gone.

322
00:23:52,080 --> 00:23:53,600
It was killed.

323
00:23:56,480 --> 00:23:58,080
Case closed.

324
00:24:03,080 --> 00:24:07,200
One afternoon,
I was cleaning in Michael's room

325
00:24:07,240 --> 00:24:11,120
and he came up to me and he said,
"Adrian, this is for you."

326
00:24:11,160 --> 00:24:14,840
And he handed me an index card,

327
00:24:14,880 --> 00:24:17,280
and he wrote on it,
"Adrian, thanks for everything."

328
00:24:19,160 --> 00:24:22,080
I opened it,
and it was three $100 bills.

329
00:24:23,520 --> 00:24:28,160
I felt like that was a payoff
to cover up for him.

330
00:24:30,600 --> 00:24:33,360
Kind of sad, so, I don't know.

331
00:24:38,640 --> 00:24:39,920
Can you guys hold on?

332
00:24:39,960 --> 00:24:42,520
Because my eyes feel
like they're glossy.

333
00:24:42,560 --> 00:24:44,280
Because I feel, like, stupid.

334
00:24:47,120 --> 00:24:49,480
Just dumb mistakes you make in life

335
00:24:49,520 --> 00:24:52,680
that, you know, you shouldn't do
sometimes, and I did it.

336
00:24:52,720 --> 00:24:54,600
But you live and learn.

337
00:24:57,400 --> 00:24:59,160
Is that restroom open?

338
00:25:00,680 --> 00:25:02,920
- Sure.
- OK. Let me just...

339
00:25:02,960 --> 00:25:05,320
Because I don't want,
I don't want then to, um...

340
00:25:13,600 --> 00:25:15,880
Back in 1993,

341
00:25:15,920 --> 00:25:18,520
Jordan Chandler became one of
the wealthiest 13-year-olds

342
00:25:18,560 --> 00:25:22,840
in America overnight,
with the settlement of that case.

343
00:25:22,880 --> 00:25:26,240
Did I feel that justice wasn't done?
Sure.

344
00:25:26,280 --> 00:25:29,880
But the Arvizo family
was very different.

345
00:25:31,120 --> 00:25:33,480
They were determined that
they weren't going to take money.

346
00:25:35,080 --> 00:25:37,160
Gavin was going to testify.

347
00:26:18,960 --> 00:26:22,000
After five weeks
of jury selection, the trial of

348
00:26:22,040 --> 00:26:24,600
the singer Michael Jackson will
begin in California later today.

349
00:26:24,640 --> 00:26:27,920
Celebrity justice correspondent
Jane Velez-Michell

350
00:26:27,960 --> 00:26:30,560
has been following the case.
She joins us from Santa Barbara...

351
00:26:30,600 --> 00:26:34,840
{\an8}This is a Shakespearean tragedy.
It's an American tragedy.

352
00:26:34,880 --> 00:26:36,520
{\an8}It's a human tragedy.

353
00:26:36,560 --> 00:26:40,160
There was a certain sense of
privilege of being able to cover it.

354
00:26:40,200 --> 00:26:41,720
What do we know about
the 12-year-old?

355
00:26:41,760 --> 00:26:44,280
The story today is
he's a cancer survivor.

356
00:26:44,320 --> 00:26:46,440
There was so much media there
you would have thought

357
00:26:46,480 --> 00:26:48,720
it was like a national
political convention.

358
00:26:48,760 --> 00:26:51,720
Michael Jackson, arriving with
his mother and brother Jermaine,

359
00:26:51,760 --> 00:26:54,960
was greeted by both
cheers and jeers.

360
00:26:55,000 --> 00:26:58,760
The entire world was focussed on
whether Michael Jackson

361
00:26:58,800 --> 00:27:00,360
is or is not a paedophile.

362
00:27:03,640 --> 00:27:06,120
{\an8}This was the most expensive
prosecution

363
00:27:06,160 --> 00:27:09,240
{\an8}in the history of
Santa Barbara County.

364
00:27:09,280 --> 00:27:12,520
And Michael Jackson's word
against theirs.

365
00:27:14,720 --> 00:27:19,120
They say he exposes kids to alcohol,
porn and strange sexual behaviour.

366
00:27:19,160 --> 00:27:20,920
He is very serious, subdued.

367
00:27:20,960 --> 00:27:23,080
He came in, he waved briefly
to his fans.

368
00:27:23,120 --> 00:27:25,240
He came in with Jermaine,
his brother, and his mother...

369
00:27:25,280 --> 00:27:30,160
He was elaborately dressed,
sort of a regal thing.

370
00:27:30,200 --> 00:27:32,000
He also wore a band,

371
00:27:32,040 --> 00:27:34,200
and I guess the significance
of the band was

372
00:27:34,240 --> 00:27:35,640
for him saying, I'm innocent.

373
00:27:35,680 --> 00:27:37,880
Innocent!

374
00:27:37,920 --> 00:27:39,720
From everything I've seen,
and I've heard and I've followed,

375
00:27:39,760 --> 00:27:42,680
he's inno... There's no way
he's guilty, you know.

376
00:27:42,720 --> 00:27:44,480
- Michael! Innocent!
- Michael! Innocent!

377
00:27:46,680 --> 00:27:48,240
The sale of his records soared.

378
00:27:48,280 --> 00:27:52,520
I said, "Michael, your records
are selling like hotcakes.

379
00:27:52,560 --> 00:27:54,080
"Your fans believe in you."

380
00:27:54,120 --> 00:27:56,840
Michael! Michael!

381
00:27:56,880 --> 00:27:58,520
And I am going to prove you
innocent.

382
00:28:00,160 --> 00:28:02,400
The jury in the Michael Jackson
trial

383
00:28:02,440 --> 00:28:05,120
will hear two very different stories
when opening statements begin today.

384
00:28:05,160 --> 00:28:07,640
The defence is expected to describe
Jackson as the victim

385
00:28:07,680 --> 00:28:12,200
of a money-hungry mum who
coached her son to lie for cash.

386
00:28:12,240 --> 00:28:13,680
The prosecution, on the other hand,

387
00:28:13,720 --> 00:28:15,680
will paint Jackson
as a wicked paedophile

388
00:28:15,720 --> 00:28:18,880
who got a sick boy drunk,
to molest him.

389
00:28:18,920 --> 00:28:22,720
{\an8}Did I ever feel that we had it in
the bag? No, not at all. Not at all.

390
00:28:24,720 --> 00:28:27,320
I knew that, ultimately, for a jury,

391
00:28:27,360 --> 00:28:30,720
it would be very easy for them
to absolve themselves

392
00:28:30,760 --> 00:28:34,720
of any of the responsibility
of him going off into prison.

393
00:28:34,760 --> 00:28:36,560
That was my biggest fear.

394
00:28:36,600 --> 00:28:41,240
Now it's all up to them,
the jury. Four men, eight women.

395
00:28:41,280 --> 00:28:43,520
{\an8}You're very conscious of
what you're doing

396
00:28:43,560 --> 00:28:48,080
{\an8}and what the magnitude
of your participation is.

397
00:28:49,160 --> 00:28:53,480
It's Michael Jackson's legacy
up for grabs.

398
00:28:53,520 --> 00:28:58,360
Is he going to be remembered as this
person that just loved children?

399
00:28:58,400 --> 00:29:02,280
Or one of the world's
greatest entertainers

400
00:29:02,320 --> 00:29:04,760
who was a child molester?

401
00:29:06,000 --> 00:29:07,840
It was Martin Bashir's
documentary

402
00:29:07,880 --> 00:29:09,320
Living With Michael Jackson

403
00:29:09,360 --> 00:29:13,440
which prompted an investigation
which led to this trial.

404
00:29:13,480 --> 00:29:17,520
When people hear
that children from other families

405
00:29:17,560 --> 00:29:20,240
have come and they've stayed
in your house,

406
00:29:20,280 --> 00:29:22,640
they've stayed in your bedroom.

407
00:29:22,680 --> 00:29:23,920
Well, very few.

408
00:29:23,960 --> 00:29:25,960
But, you know, some have.

409
00:29:26,000 --> 00:29:28,640
I thought that was good,
compelling evidence for us

410
00:29:28,680 --> 00:29:31,240
is the admission that
he sleeps with kids.

411
00:29:31,280 --> 00:29:35,760
Is that really appropriate for a
man, a grown man, to be doing that?

412
00:29:35,800 --> 00:29:37,320
How do you respond to that?

413
00:29:37,360 --> 00:29:40,360
I feel sorry for them
because that's judging someone

414
00:29:40,400 --> 00:29:42,200
who wants to really help people.

415
00:29:42,240 --> 00:29:44,720
Why can't you share your bed?

416
00:29:44,760 --> 00:29:46,760
The most loving thing to do is

417
00:29:46,800 --> 00:29:49,080
to share your bed with someone,
you know.

418
00:29:49,120 --> 00:29:51,520
- You really think that?
- Yeah.

419
00:29:51,560 --> 00:29:54,000
Martin Bashir's reaction to it

420
00:29:54,040 --> 00:29:58,280
I thought was the reaction
a reasonable person would have.

421
00:29:58,320 --> 00:30:01,760
How do you justify
having children in your bed?

422
00:30:01,800 --> 00:30:05,520
What other adult man
do you know anywhere in the world

423
00:30:05,560 --> 00:30:08,000
who does that,
other than a paedophile?

424
00:30:08,040 --> 00:30:10,960
Who would you be willing to
let your children sleep with

425
00:30:11,000 --> 00:30:13,720
in terms of an adult man?

426
00:30:13,760 --> 00:30:15,920
And the answer is nobody.

427
00:30:17,360 --> 00:30:19,080
The defence
set out to undermine

428
00:30:19,120 --> 00:30:22,400
Martin Bashir's credibility,
bombarding him with questions

429
00:30:22,440 --> 00:30:24,360
most of which he refused to answer,

430
00:30:24,400 --> 00:30:27,000
citing a journalist's right
to protect his sources.

431
00:30:28,800 --> 00:30:32,200
Jackson and Gavin had
a very emotional connection.

432
00:30:36,520 --> 00:30:39,080
When they first met,
Gavin was recovering from cancer,

433
00:30:39,120 --> 00:30:40,920
he had been horribly sick,

434
00:30:40,960 --> 00:30:43,320
and Michael Jackson was there
to offer support.

435
00:30:46,040 --> 00:30:50,560
Gavin said Michael would do things
that would take down inhibitions.

436
00:30:52,960 --> 00:30:57,720
And then, it escalates
into increasingly sexual language.

437
00:30:57,760 --> 00:31:02,160
So, he is desensitising kids.

438
00:31:02,200 --> 00:31:06,360
He makes them feel like
they're culpable.

439
00:31:06,400 --> 00:31:09,360
He uses the word "we".

440
00:31:09,400 --> 00:31:12,280
"We're doing this.
We'd be in trouble."

441
00:31:13,840 --> 00:31:19,520
He incorporates the child
in all of the misbehaviour.

442
00:31:21,280 --> 00:31:25,360
You're already in trouble
for drinking alcohol,

443
00:31:25,400 --> 00:31:29,160
watching porn, like,
there's already a million things

444
00:31:29,200 --> 00:31:32,960
your mom can never know about
by the time you're abused.

445
00:31:34,560 --> 00:31:39,600
Michael Jackson's public persona was
the person who just loved children.

446
00:31:39,640 --> 00:31:42,360
And what he was trying to
convince people of was that

447
00:31:42,400 --> 00:31:44,080
he really was
the modern-day Peter Pan.

448
00:31:46,680 --> 00:31:48,680
But there is no such thing
as Peter Pan.

449
00:31:51,280 --> 00:31:53,440
What he was always doing
was looking for a child

450
00:31:53,480 --> 00:31:56,240
that he could eventually
get into his bed.

451
00:31:56,280 --> 00:32:00,880
And, of course, it was Gavin who
was the target of his attentions.

452
00:32:02,080 --> 00:32:05,160
For Gavin, it was worse
than getting cancer

453
00:32:05,200 --> 00:32:10,680
which...how can you say that? How
can anybody say that about anything?

454
00:32:13,480 --> 00:32:18,920
I know Gavin, and Gavin,
he's just a very truthful person.

455
00:32:21,000 --> 00:32:25,840
He isn't the person that wants
to hang on to a lot of baggage.

456
00:32:25,880 --> 00:32:28,440
He's just going to
confront what this is

457
00:32:28,480 --> 00:32:30,520
and deal with the repercussions.

458
00:32:30,560 --> 00:32:32,080
Hey, little guy.

459
00:32:37,880 --> 00:32:40,920
The key witnesses
in this extraordinary trial

460
00:32:40,960 --> 00:32:43,960
whisked into court this morning
through a side entrance -

461
00:32:44,000 --> 00:32:47,120
Gavin, Michael Jackson's accuser.

462
00:32:47,160 --> 00:32:51,600
It's the big moment of the trial.
The accuser is taking the stand.

463
00:32:51,640 --> 00:32:54,720
The heart of the testimony is going
to be delivered by the accuser

464
00:32:54,760 --> 00:32:56,680
on this day.

465
00:32:57,680 --> 00:33:00,240
I was standing right there
outside the courthouse

466
00:33:00,280 --> 00:33:02,680
waiting for Michael Jackson
to arrive.

467
00:33:02,720 --> 00:33:05,800
And that is the day that Michael
Jackson doesn't come to court!

468
00:33:06,920 --> 00:33:08,960
His face
etched with anxiety,

469
00:33:09,000 --> 00:33:13,360
Michael Jackson's lawyer waits
for a client who's gone missing.

470
00:33:13,400 --> 00:33:14,640
The judge says...

471
00:33:15,880 --> 00:33:17,840
.."You better get to court
within the hour

472
00:33:17,880 --> 00:33:20,120
"or I'm going to arrest you."

473
00:33:20,160 --> 00:33:22,400
We're just waiting
on pins and needles,

474
00:33:22,440 --> 00:33:25,480
literally staring at where
the car is supposed to show up.

475
00:33:25,520 --> 00:33:28,720
Everybody's like, is he going
to show? Isn't he going to show?

476
00:33:28,760 --> 00:33:31,200
What on Earth is going on here?

477
00:33:33,120 --> 00:33:37,440
There was this giant motorcade,
helicopters above

478
00:33:37,480 --> 00:33:40,520
as Michael Jackson raced from
the hospital to the courthouse.

479
00:33:42,640 --> 00:33:48,200
They were driving up the 101 freeway
at 110 miles an hour

480
00:33:48,240 --> 00:33:50,640
because the judge said,
if you're not here in an hour,

481
00:33:50,680 --> 00:33:51,880
I'm forfeiting your bail.

482
00:33:51,920 --> 00:33:54,240
Somebody was going to get killed.

483
00:33:54,280 --> 00:33:55,320
I was furious.

484
00:33:55,360 --> 00:33:58,480
"Judge, you can't... You have
to understand this man's life

485
00:33:58,520 --> 00:34:00,240
"and the people surrounding him."

486
00:34:00,280 --> 00:34:01,920
Nope. An hour. That's it.

487
00:34:05,520 --> 00:34:10,760
It was like watching a movie unfold

488
00:34:10,800 --> 00:34:12,480
but you're part of the movie.

489
00:34:13,880 --> 00:34:16,520
A strange day was
just about to get even stranger.

490
00:34:17,960 --> 00:34:23,280
After a while, he shows up,
and he gets out very slowly...

491
00:34:23,320 --> 00:34:25,160
in his pyjamas!

492
00:34:29,400 --> 00:34:32,160
All the focus shifts to
outside court,

493
00:34:32,200 --> 00:34:36,080
not to the little boy
waiting in the wings

494
00:34:36,120 --> 00:34:39,640
to testify and accuse
Michael Jackson of molestation.

495
00:34:39,680 --> 00:34:41,560
Innocent! Innocent!

496
00:34:41,600 --> 00:34:42,880
Imagine what he was going through.

497
00:34:44,560 --> 00:34:46,080
A couple of ways to look at this -

498
00:34:46,120 --> 00:34:49,400
first of all, he really was hurt
and needed to get to the hospital.

499
00:34:49,440 --> 00:34:52,000
The other is that maybe
it's just a ploy to drum up

500
00:34:52,040 --> 00:34:54,000
some kind of sympathy from the jury.

501
00:34:54,040 --> 00:34:56,920
A cynic would say,
brilliant orchestration

502
00:34:56,960 --> 00:34:59,720
to destabilise the accuser.

503
00:34:59,760 --> 00:35:01,880
I mean,

504
00:35:01,920 --> 00:35:05,080
this guy knows how to
direct the attention to him

505
00:35:05,120 --> 00:35:08,040
and away from what's happening
inside court.

506
00:35:08,080 --> 00:35:12,520
And he did it over and over
and over again.

507
00:35:12,560 --> 00:35:13,800
What does this kid have to say?

508
00:35:13,840 --> 00:35:15,440
Well, I'll tell you, he comes across

509
00:35:15,480 --> 00:35:18,480
as a very believable,
articulate and sympathetic witness.

510
00:35:18,520 --> 00:35:21,160
This boy has been waiting
in the wings for this moment,

511
00:35:21,200 --> 00:35:22,400
and his moment has come.

512
00:35:24,080 --> 00:35:25,880
It's kind of strange.

513
00:35:25,920 --> 00:35:29,320
You know, here we sit,
you know, 20 years later,

514
00:35:29,360 --> 00:35:33,240
and I'm still remembering
how I felt.

515
00:35:35,320 --> 00:35:39,760
He absolutely looked believable
to me.

516
00:35:39,800 --> 00:35:42,920
To me, he appeared to be a child

517
00:35:42,960 --> 00:35:48,080
that was going through
this really...

518
00:35:48,120 --> 00:35:51,680
terrible struggle

519
00:35:51,720 --> 00:35:55,280
to admit that,

520
00:35:55,320 --> 00:35:57,520
as a boy,

521
00:35:57,560 --> 00:36:00,000
he had been molested by a man.

522
00:36:01,360 --> 00:36:04,880
Now you have to tell your story
in front of the world,

523
00:36:04,920 --> 00:36:06,520
talk about all these things
that you did.

524
00:36:06,560 --> 00:36:07,800
You know, that's really hard to do.

525
00:36:10,520 --> 00:36:15,320
It's the worst thing that a boy
would ever have to say out loud.

526
00:36:15,360 --> 00:36:19,880
It's why most men go to their deaths
with these secrets.

527
00:36:26,840 --> 00:36:28,840
And now, the race is on.

528
00:36:28,880 --> 00:36:32,800
Can Jackson's defence sufficiently
discredit a child witness

529
00:36:32,840 --> 00:36:36,040
over the next few days,
without upsetting him?

530
00:36:36,080 --> 00:36:39,040
We went to trial with the
molestations that took place

531
00:36:39,080 --> 00:36:41,840
in the three-week period
after the Bashir documentary.

532
00:36:41,880 --> 00:36:46,440
We believed that he was molesting
Gavin prior to that, as well.

533
00:36:46,480 --> 00:36:49,400
But I think that
the bulk of the molestation

534
00:36:49,440 --> 00:36:53,120
and all of the charged counts of
molestation

535
00:36:53,160 --> 00:36:56,080
occurred during
the three-week period.

536
00:36:56,120 --> 00:36:58,200
Why would he do it
with that focus of attention?

537
00:36:58,240 --> 00:37:00,320
The answer is,
he can't help himself.

538
00:37:00,360 --> 00:37:01,680
He was a paedophile.

539
00:37:01,720 --> 00:37:05,320
Michael Jackson's lawyers
are taking aim at his accuser.

540
00:37:05,360 --> 00:37:08,440
Jackson's lawyers' clear intention
is to paint this boy

541
00:37:08,480 --> 00:37:12,520
as someone whose word the jury
simply cannot afford to trust.

542
00:37:12,560 --> 00:37:15,240
We asked the prosecution when it was

543
00:37:15,280 --> 00:37:18,520
that Michael Jackson
molested Gavin Arvizo.

544
00:37:18,560 --> 00:37:22,480
One incident was February 21st,
they said.

545
00:37:22,520 --> 00:37:24,320
The family was at the ranch.

546
00:37:24,360 --> 00:37:25,960
Gavin was in bed with Michael,

547
00:37:26,000 --> 00:37:29,000
and Star, the brother,
came up the stairway,

548
00:37:29,040 --> 00:37:34,200
and Star saw Michael
masturbating the boy in bed.

549
00:37:34,240 --> 00:37:36,560
I said, "Really?

550
00:37:36,600 --> 00:37:40,360
"I have here an article
from the Palm Beach Newspaper,

551
00:37:40,400 --> 00:37:41,880
"February 22nd,

552
00:37:41,920 --> 00:37:45,920
"that, the day before, Michael
Jackson was seen shopping

553
00:37:45,960 --> 00:37:47,240
"in Palm Beach, Florida.

554
00:37:47,280 --> 00:37:51,520
"Now, how was it that he was
at Neverland Ranch on the 21st?"

555
00:37:52,600 --> 00:37:53,840
Bingo. I got 'em.

556
00:37:53,880 --> 00:37:57,560
Michael was telling the truth.
These accusers were not.

557
00:38:00,080 --> 00:38:03,160
It's a tough thing for kids
to come forward

558
00:38:03,200 --> 00:38:06,480
and publicly talk about having been
a victim of sex crime.

559
00:38:06,520 --> 00:38:11,760
Very often, the victims of sexual
abuse can't say with certainty

560
00:38:11,800 --> 00:38:14,480
the details of what had happened
on this occasion or that occasion

561
00:38:14,520 --> 00:38:16,320
or the next occasion.

562
00:38:16,360 --> 00:38:18,720
It's just the nature of
the phenomena.

563
00:38:18,760 --> 00:38:20,280
This isn't a whodunnit

564
00:38:20,320 --> 00:38:22,440
where there's clearly a crime
and one or more victims.

565
00:38:22,480 --> 00:38:24,000
This is a
"did it really happen?"

566
00:38:24,040 --> 00:38:27,440
Everything about this case is, um...

567
00:38:29,440 --> 00:38:31,040
..confounding.

568
00:38:31,080 --> 00:38:34,840
There's the innocent explanation,
and the sinister explanation.

569
00:38:36,760 --> 00:38:39,040
Is Gavin the accuser credible?

570
00:38:39,080 --> 00:38:40,840
Is Michael Jackson credible?

571
00:38:40,880 --> 00:38:42,480
You decide.

572
00:38:49,800 --> 00:38:53,400
The defence in the Michael Jackson
trial suffered a big setback today.

573
00:38:53,440 --> 00:38:56,360
The judge said he will allow
the prosecution to present evidence

574
00:38:56,400 --> 00:39:00,480
that Jackson has been accused
of molesting children before.

575
00:39:00,520 --> 00:39:05,360
What we were able to bring in
with regards to past bad acts

576
00:39:05,400 --> 00:39:07,160
was that, a number of years earlier,

577
00:39:07,200 --> 00:39:10,440
Jordan Chandler walked away
with millions of dollars.

578
00:39:12,640 --> 00:39:13,920
The jury looks at that

579
00:39:13,960 --> 00:39:17,000
and they think, come on,
how's this going to happen twice?

580
00:39:17,040 --> 00:39:20,440
It's a huge blow to Jackson,
and it's great news for prosecutors.

581
00:39:20,480 --> 00:39:22,960
They essentially get a second chance
to make a first impression.

582
00:39:23,000 --> 00:39:26,520
And the whole case has changed,
it's a new dynamic.

583
00:39:31,320 --> 00:39:34,600
What happened ten years ago
is irrelevant.

584
00:39:35,800 --> 00:39:41,080
You have to prove the defendant
guilty beyond a reasonable doubt

585
00:39:41,120 --> 00:39:45,800
based on what they did now,
not what they did before.

586
00:39:45,840 --> 00:39:51,280
Oh, you can besmirch the defendant,
you can make the defendant look bad.

587
00:39:51,320 --> 00:39:55,400
That's not evidence.
That's character assassination.

588
00:39:59,320 --> 00:40:02,240
When I left Neverland
and walked out of that job,

589
00:40:02,280 --> 00:40:05,040
me and a lot of the employees,
we sued Mr Jackson

590
00:40:05,080 --> 00:40:06,800
for the treatment that we got.

591
00:40:08,080 --> 00:40:09,720
The things that we saw -

592
00:40:09,760 --> 00:40:12,720
Michael with kids and stuff...

593
00:40:12,760 --> 00:40:14,240
- there were a lot of
different accounts,

594
00:40:14,280 --> 00:40:15,600
and there was molestation in there.

595
00:40:15,640 --> 00:40:18,520
But the judge ruled that
we could not bring up molestation.

596
00:40:20,120 --> 00:40:21,720
We lost our lawsuit.

597
00:40:24,000 --> 00:40:26,360
So, when I got called for his trial,

598
00:40:26,400 --> 00:40:28,720
I didn't want nothing to do
with Michael.

599
00:40:28,760 --> 00:40:32,200
I didn't want to,
I didn't even want to look at him.

600
00:40:32,240 --> 00:40:35,680
Former Jackson maid
Adrian McManus is now on the stand.

601
00:40:35,720 --> 00:40:38,360
She is talking about
the parade of young boys

602
00:40:38,400 --> 00:40:40,160
who came through Neverland.

603
00:40:41,440 --> 00:40:43,400
When I walked in there,

604
00:40:43,440 --> 00:40:44,880
he looked at me, like,

605
00:40:44,920 --> 00:40:48,880
"Oh, Adrian, where have you been?
I've missed you."

606
00:40:48,920 --> 00:40:53,400
That angered me because I could see
the games through him, you know.

607
00:40:53,440 --> 00:40:58,480
I saw what he did to me. I saw
that he only cared about himself.

608
00:40:58,520 --> 00:41:01,560
I said what I had to say
about what I saw,

609
00:41:01,600 --> 00:41:06,400
with Mr Jackson and Jordan Chandler,
and what I had seen.

610
00:41:06,440 --> 00:41:08,880
And Michael just turned his face.

611
00:41:08,920 --> 00:41:11,000
He would not look at me again.

612
00:41:11,040 --> 00:41:14,400
And I thought, good!
I am free from you now.

613
00:41:14,440 --> 00:41:15,720
You don't control me.

614
00:41:21,840 --> 00:41:26,360
I truly felt that Michael Jackson
was a child molester.

615
00:41:26,400 --> 00:41:29,360
I felt that then,
and I haven't changed my mind now.

616
00:41:29,400 --> 00:41:31,360
I still feel that way.

617
00:41:31,400 --> 00:41:35,880
But I had to give Michael Jackson
the benefit of the doubt.

618
00:41:35,920 --> 00:41:38,240
You know, he really didn't do this,
or whatever.

619
00:41:38,280 --> 00:41:39,960
That's what the jury
was supposed to do.

620
00:41:41,800 --> 00:41:44,280
What should have been
a damaging account

621
00:41:44,320 --> 00:41:48,480
instead fizzled, after Tom Mesereau
dismantled her on cross-examination,

622
00:41:48,520 --> 00:41:52,120
getting her to admit
she tried to sue Jackson, and lost,

623
00:41:52,160 --> 00:41:54,480
and lied in an earlier deposition.

624
00:41:56,040 --> 00:41:57,760
They destroyed us.

625
00:41:59,440 --> 00:42:03,400
So... And that's, like I said,
I get angry that,

626
00:42:03,440 --> 00:42:06,880
you know, a lot of people,
especially the jurors,

627
00:42:06,920 --> 00:42:11,080
right away, they were like,
um, oh, yeah, these people, um,

628
00:42:11,120 --> 00:42:13,680
they just want money.
They just want money.

629
00:42:13,720 --> 00:42:17,880
It was really, it was
a tough situation dealing with that.

630
00:42:19,880 --> 00:42:22,720
The problem that we had was that
a number of the people

631
00:42:22,760 --> 00:42:29,200
who worked for him brought
a lawsuit against him, and lost,

632
00:42:29,240 --> 00:42:34,800
and ended up with a judgement
against them for expenses.

633
00:42:34,840 --> 00:42:37,720
A judgement that they never paid.

634
00:42:37,760 --> 00:42:40,960
And it seriously affected
their credibility

635
00:42:41,000 --> 00:42:44,240
and their ability to be able to
talk about what had happened.

636
00:42:44,280 --> 00:42:46,160
It really hurt us.

637
00:42:49,520 --> 00:42:54,960
{\an8}There was another witness that,
really, to this day, sticks with me,

638
00:42:55,000 --> 00:42:59,320
{\an8}was Jordan Chandler's mum.

639
00:42:59,360 --> 00:43:01,640
The latest twist
in his trial,

640
00:43:01,680 --> 00:43:05,520
a claim that Michael Jackson
begged a young boy's mother

641
00:43:05,560 --> 00:43:08,600
to allow the youngster
to sleep with him.

642
00:43:08,640 --> 00:43:11,960
That allegation was made by
June Chandler

643
00:43:12,000 --> 00:43:14,800
who says she was showered with
jewellery by the singer

644
00:43:14,840 --> 00:43:20,440
as he swept her family off on trips
to Monaco, Florida and Las Vegas.

645
00:43:20,480 --> 00:43:25,720
I remember her taking a stand just
ten years after Jordan's situation.

646
00:43:28,400 --> 00:43:31,480
And she said she was
a horrible mother,

647
00:43:31,520 --> 00:43:37,720
and her exact words was,
"I sold my son to Michael Jackson."

648
00:43:37,760 --> 00:43:41,440
She said that she hadn't heard from
her son, and she understood why.

649
00:43:42,760 --> 00:43:44,880
I just thought, oh, my gosh.

650
00:43:44,920 --> 00:43:47,080
It moved me.

651
00:43:47,120 --> 00:43:50,920
I can't understand how
it would not have moved any jury.

652
00:43:54,560 --> 00:43:56,920
I thought it was
very damaging testimony,

653
00:43:56,960 --> 00:44:00,360
particularly the moment
where she says that Michael Jackson,

654
00:44:00,400 --> 00:44:05,600
crying and shaking and trembling,
begged her to allow her son

655
00:44:05,640 --> 00:44:10,440
to sleep with him,
and basically said, "We're family."

656
00:44:10,480 --> 00:44:12,280
Well, they're not family.

657
00:44:12,320 --> 00:44:16,480
Why should a mother be asked
to trust a middle-aged man

658
00:44:16,520 --> 00:44:19,000
to be entitled to sleep
with her son?

659
00:44:21,080 --> 00:44:24,720
I thought, oh, my gosh,
what kind of grown man would cry

660
00:44:24,760 --> 00:44:29,760
because this mother decides she
don't want to bring her little boy

661
00:44:29,800 --> 00:44:31,640
to have a sleepover with you?

662
00:44:31,680 --> 00:44:35,240
And I thought,
he's going to lose this thing.

663
00:44:35,280 --> 00:44:40,000
What possessed a mother to allow her
son to share a stranger's bed

664
00:44:40,040 --> 00:44:42,040
was never made clear.

665
00:44:42,080 --> 00:44:45,680
But, asked by the prosecution,
as she concluded her testimony,

666
00:44:45,720 --> 00:44:49,360
whether she regretted placing
her trust in Michael Jackson,

667
00:44:49,400 --> 00:44:52,320
June Chandler replied,
"Very much so."

668
00:44:54,640 --> 00:44:57,880
The message was kind of clear to me.

669
00:44:57,920 --> 00:45:01,560
The parents didn't
protect their sons

670
00:45:01,600 --> 00:45:04,080
because they were groomed
as much as the kids were

671
00:45:04,120 --> 00:45:07,560
into thinking that
everything was going to be OK.

672
00:45:07,600 --> 00:45:13,560
They were as awestruck with Michael
Jackson as the kids themselves.

673
00:45:17,480 --> 00:45:20,080
This was what Michael Jackson
would do.

674
00:45:20,120 --> 00:45:24,640
He was able to win over the loyalty
of the mothers of these children

675
00:45:24,680 --> 00:45:28,520
by giving them lavish gifts and
treating them to a lavish lifestyle.

676
00:45:30,320 --> 00:45:32,560
We had Jordan Chandler's
mother in there.

677
00:45:32,600 --> 00:45:34,960
We had the proof that
there was a settlement.

678
00:45:35,000 --> 00:45:36,880
We had the proof that he had spent

679
00:45:36,920 --> 00:45:39,080
an endless amount of time
in bed with him.

680
00:45:39,120 --> 00:45:42,120
I've won cases with
no more evidence than that.

681
00:45:44,840 --> 00:45:49,000
There's witness after witness
that say Jackson has a pattern

682
00:45:49,040 --> 00:45:51,480
and practice of molesting children.

683
00:45:51,520 --> 00:45:53,400
And I'll tell you,
the jury's going to look to that,

684
00:45:53,440 --> 00:45:55,440
and they're going to have
a difficult time

685
00:45:55,480 --> 00:45:58,120
saying that Jackson is not
a paedophile in this case.

686
00:46:00,200 --> 00:46:03,720
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